The case of looking to the east Ignorance of the reason for Sinophobia/2

According to the international group Tasnim news agency, Tasnim news agency has evaluated the strategy of looking to the east in the foreign policy of the Islamic Republic of Iran and the bilateral relations between Iran and China in a case titled “Silk Road Partner”. The contents of this file include detailed conversations and notes related to this strategy. In the second part of this program, he paid attention to the cultural dimensions and the common perspective of the relations between these two countries.

In this turn, Bardia Attaran, a foreign policy researcher, focused on the macroeconomic perspective of the new China, regional and bilateral issues. We discussed the relationship and dimensions of the future Tehran-Beijing cooperation in a conversation with Ali Mohammad Exezi, the former cultural advisor of the Islamic Republic of Iran in China.

The details of this conversation are as follows. Below is.

/span> We want to start the discussion from here, that in our relations with the Chinese, we need an accurate understanding and understanding from the parties, something that seems to be not understood correctly by the Chinese in Iran.
We are witnessing a polar view regarding the view of China in the atmosphere of the country. On the other hand, some consider China as the savior of the country. Therefore, we must have a precise understanding. In this conversation, we first want to look at China’s perspective, what the Chinese are looking for in the international sphere, how do they look at the region and their neighboring countries and their international competitors such as America or Russia. Do?

I must first say that China is a country with a long history of civilization, a rich culture and a broad society, and in fact in East Asia, at least in the long term, for centuries and millennia and their culture is actually the basis of all China’s economic, political and security movements in the domestic and foreign spheres.

If China’s past If we do not know China, we will definitely not know China today and we will not know China tomorrow in any way. Therefore, we should invest in this issue. Different centers, think tanks, so-called research and research centers should study China, not China’s economic issues, China’s economic issues, even China’s international political issues, in my opinion, in the second priority in terms of It is the totality of Chinese thought and priority is given to cultural issues.

The main issue of China is Chinese social philosophy, Chinese culture, economy, politics, security, Domestic issues and international issues revolve on this axis. Culture is everything in China. If we pay attention to Chinese culture and fully understand it, then we can easily interact with China, gain our own national interests in relation to China, and very easily make the Chinese people To attract investment and cooperation both in the bilateral and international fields. Our problem is that we don’t know China. Let us give an overview here. One of the common understandings that exist inside Iran regarding China’s discourse is that the Western countries, the countries that are the claimants and standard bearers of liberal democracy, claim that China is one of the triads of force, wealth and soft power. Discourse only has gold, that is, it only has economic power, but from the point of view of military and soft power, it has not yet reached the point where it can compete with other powers. I understand from your statement that China is not only important but waiting for an opportunity to present its discourse to the world; If it is possible, please introduce us to the cultural discourse of our new China. They put forth a policy in their cultural and general social issues, and that was that they said that we should try to introduce China to the world and the world, that is, if we do not know the world, we cannot interact with it, and if we introduce China to the world, we cannot interact with it. Unknown to us, we lost again. Unfortunately, in this field, we are far behind many other countries in understanding China. The Chinese are a society with complex layers that it is not easy for someone without knowledge to enter these layers. Other countries on China have started to identify the Chinese culture from the past decades, even from a hundred years ago, that is, since the Christian missionaries entered China, to know what is the intellectual philosophy of the Chinese society?

Of course, someone who has worked in this field for 100 years, 150 years can easily interact with China now, while even Westerners believe that we have not yet fully understood China. One of the reasons that the Chinese themselves put forward as to why the world does not recognize us is that they say that there are two types of civilizations. One civilization is a male civilization. In fact, gaining mastery to reach one’s own goals does not even look at the other side, how much it is harmed, how much it is hurt. ” style=”text-align:justify”>However, there is a thought or Madina civilization that is right in front of this and the famous Chinese strategist who wrote a book more than 2000 years ago that was also translated in Iran under the title “Rite of War” or the art of war” is a real strategist in every sense, he says that if a general wins a hundred battles, he is not a successful general. The real general is the one who wins without fighting. Without starting a war, without causing casualties, without spending money, he can bring his enemy to his knees and make him submit to himself. This is Chinese thinking.

I also ask you what is the strongest and so-called most powerful object in this world?

Tasnim: diamond

**They say it is water, they say nothing can stop water, while the softest thing in the world is water. The most powerful is water, nothing can stop water. Water stands patiently, every stone that stands in front of it waits, rises higher and passes over that stone.

Tasnim: This sentence or even some proverbs that say: “The Chinese believe that you should be water under a straw”, or the same statement that you said. I would like to say how much we can witness this Chinese thinking that is emerging in different layers of society in the governance layer and in the politics layer. For example, Mr. Xi Jinping, as the president of China, builds his relations with other countries with the same way of thinking that he governs? Or is this view only at the level of culture and among people? If you think that they have such thinking in the field of their foreign policy, please explain to us more.

** This is an example. Your Highness said that the water under the straw in our society has a negative charge, while what China is thinking of does not have a negative charge, it has a positive charge.

Tasnim: Make your move without sound.

** Make the movement without sound, carry out the work without advertising, know the weaknesses of the other side and enter from there and reach your goals. Then they say that these two civilizations, male and female, are almost like two hands that complement each other. These gears can move an industry when they collide, if these gears don’t collide, whether it’s big or small or doesn’t have gears, it won’t be able to rotate that factory industry.

The Chinese say that our civilization is a female civilization, Western civilization is a male civilization, that’s why they can’t understand us. Whatever we do, we become the water under the straw, if our goal is not to be the water under the straw. First of all, if you look at economic issues, their motto is win-win. They say that we have economic interaction with different countries and we want to make a profit, while Western societies or Western civilization do not see it this way. They say that the more we can receive from other countries, and now it hurts them, it hurts their society, their culture is destroyed, the environment is destroyed, they don’t care about that, what matters is to achieve their goals .

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Tasnim: Exactly about the Americans, in their culture it is said that it is mine that is mine, we can Negotiate for the property of the other party. This is completely different from the Chinese view. Mr. Doctor, let us have a conversation about this issue. The word “China” in the Chinese language means “China Gua” means the center of the earth. It became like the same Iranian and Chinese proverb, the same water under the straw has two completely different meanings, in Farsi it has a negative meaning and in China it has a completely positive meaning, please explain this too?

**First of all, I refer to the famous hadith from the great Prophet of Islam, may God bless him and grant him peace, who said, “Ask for knowledge even in China. Learn science and knowledge, even if it is in China.” In our society, it is interpreted that because China was a very far away country, the Prophet said that if you go to that region, learn these things, if this is not true. At the time of the Prophet, the Prophet understood that one of the scientific centers of the world is China, and he said that you should go and learn science from China. This is a different understanding of what is being discussed in our society now. style=”text-align:justify”>The second issue is that the Chinese believe that we accept sweets from the enemy, that is, if the enemy offers us sweets, we accept them. It is true that it is the enemy, but the nature of the sweets is It is sweet, it doesn’t matter if it comes from a friend or from an enemy; The nature of its sweetness does not change, we accept sweetness.

In all their discourses on cultural and civilization issues, they always say that it is true that we are a country. We are civilized and have a lot of cultural history, but first of all, many of the things we learned, we learned from others, and we still have shortcomings in many other issues that we need to learn from others. Like us, they don’t say that art belongs to Iranians and that’s it. The more they understand, the more they know that they need to know more. See how much this difference in looks determines one’s path.

The issue of the so-called centrality of the earth is again a wrong understanding of the concept of “China Gua” or the centrality of the earth. The Chinese have a term that has been around since the time of Confucius, even before Confucius, called “Tin Xia”, which means that everything under the sky is called sovereignty, a universal sovereignty that must be looked upon. It should be aimed at the interests of the entire human society. In general, one of the philosophical and intellectual differences between the Chinese and the West is that they say that the origin of Western thought is taken from Westphalia. Westphalia is the result of that meeting and the creation of the state of nations.

There is no nationality at all, the world community, human society is a community, there must be a person or a center to guide this human society, to solve its problems, to eliminate its shortcomings in front of the one who says force. The person who is poor should take his hand and in fact the God-given resources that exist in this system on this planet should be equally distributed to everyone, everyone should be heard, everyone should be able to speak, not one person like the United Nations veto process. The whole world should say that Palestine should be a member of the United Nations community, but if one person comes and vetoes all the words of others, this is not universality at all. Universality means that everyone’s voice is heard and that they say that the center or that Jungo is actually a center that can lead and guide the whole society, sympathize with each human society and nation, and try to solve their problems. Slow down.

Tasnim: In your opinion, centrality means that peace Is it global?

**Yes, they are looking for world peace, that’s what Mr. Xi Jinping said after that, the road and road initiative The Belt and Road has put forward several other initiatives, one civilization, global human society, two world development, three world security. It is not possible to say security, development and civilization, China says that every country and every nation has a series of issues, a series of energies and cultural symbols and words. which hurts the whole world, why shouldn’t it be able to express its opinion in the world.

Tasnim: With this question, let me summarize the part and say the last word, look, there is a fear in our society towards the Chinese. There are different signs for this fear, one is the existence of internal social pressure in China, for example, they say that the pressure of work is high, or that the exercise of governance is coercive and top-down, and we have a historical view and thoughts about tyranny, and we are extremely We avoid tyranny and consider tyranny to be the cause of our backwardness. Now, the problem is that if China ever increases its relations with other countries, this will naturally harm these countries because their approaches will overflow, but the point of view you express is that the Chinese are looking for global security or global peace. We feel very afraid in the sense that he will not only rule China, but his rule will also cast a shadow on Iran; My understanding from your words is that not only should we not be afraid of the Chinese, but that culture is a masochistic culture and the same thing we want to say, the Chinese say in a different way and because we don’t understand. >

**That’s exactly what we don’t understand; Man is afraid of something he does not know. You pass through these streets during the day, you have no fear, but who is it from an alley and a house that you have not entered yet or the different dimensions of this house? What is? who was it what is in it When you don’t know, you want to enter with fear.

The world tried to make China a dark room in the last two centuries when the Westerners dominated the world. Make sure that all the people are afraid of this dark house, if a light is turned on inside this house, one will see that many things that exist in our beliefs and beliefs, especially for us Iranians, are also completely present in Chinese philosophy.

However, we are afraid because we don’t know, you look at the poems of our polite elders, everyone praised China, why, but now everyone says that China is bad, if it is bad Why do Saadi and Hafez say it is good and why did Ferdowsi define it, then they had knowledge, they understood that China’s culture, art, society, philosophy is a valuable society and they started to define it. It is scary that such a situation has happened to us. We should know China, of course we have a difference between China and the West, everyone is trying to say that if China is like this, it will be like that.

Where did we find this knowledge? We found out from the westerners, when the westerners gained power, when they launched steamships in the seas, they conquered the whole world, killed and looted everywhere, and made it their own colony. We think that if another person comes, it will be like them. Westerners have experienced but the Chinese have not yet, you cannot compare the inexperienced with the experienced.

The Chinese are a They have a humanistic view of humanity. The Chinese believe that the sky – now they call God, which they do not believe in, by the name of the sky or nature – they say that we have one nature, one people and human society, we have one government, this government is the mediator between society and It is heaven, if you see that this ruler acts according to the interests of the people, he acts correctly and helps this ruler to continue his rule. As a representative of the sky, it has acted correctly in dealing with the people and society, but whenever they feel that this government does not want to benefit the people, it does oppression and injustice, the sky takes its representation, and this causes storms and natural disasters and There will be conflicts and social riots, and then the ruler will be removed and another ruler will come to work. This means that the Chinese government believes that the ruler is between God and the people, between heaven and the people. If he acts well, he acts according to God’s words. He did not oppress, his rule continues, as soon as he puts them aside, the sky hits him on the head and takes his representation, that’s why they say that the emperor is the son of God and the sky, he rules on behalf of the sky, not on behalf of Therefore, we should pay attention to this issue. Let me go more into the ominous regional issues, that is, China’s relationship with the West Asian region, except for the constant flow of oil that is heard from the region and the Persian Gulf, the agreement between Iran and Saudi Arabia. How do you think the Chinese view the West Asian region? Do they think there should be a balance in our region, or do they want to favor one country or region over another, or balance it with a specific partner in a specific region? Or not, they try to look at the share of each country separately. I am not political, I have a cultural point of view. As I said, after the Chinese reached a place economically and became the first economy in the world, and after that they entered the political issues and the international arena, they considered these two components of power as a prelude to their cultural issues. . That is, the principle of culture is the necessity of their culture, economy and politics. bring these two categories to the same place until today.

Now the ground has been reached for a cultural look at human societies and on this ground for decades now. are working If you look at the Belt and Road initiative in the press, they all looked at it from an economic and political perspective, no one came to look at the Belt and Road initiative from a cultural perspective, from a geocultural perspective, which means both geopolitics and geoeconomics. This shows that the understanding of China, of this initiative proposed by Xi Jinping, is incomplete. Xi Jinping wants to join the Belt and Road Initiative in West Asia, Central Asia, and the Middle East, not the world. They exploit it.

He wants to put forward the same idea as saying that the human society is all the same, no one is superior to the other, and if Someone who has money should not try to increase his money, he should use his money to make others rich and eradicate poverty from human societies. Not that he does this only in his own society. You know that in these 30-40 years after the reforms, almost 700 million poor people grew up below the Chinese poverty line and got out of absolute poverty with the Chinese index, not the global index. China is much lower than the global index and now China has become the first world power and wants to pour its overflows to other countries.

Tasnim: Point out the most important cultural policies that the Chinese do in our region.

p dir=”RTL” style=”text-align:justify”>Tasnim: Whether in our country or in other countries?

**They created more than 500 Confucius Institutes in the whole world, all of these institutes are located in academic centers of countries, for example in America, more than 100 universities, institutes Confucius in England 30 universities cooperate with the Confucius Institute and they want to raise the humanistic thinking of Chinese culture in other society and they face opposition. For example, America and the West, if they feel that China is saying something that draws the attention of the world community to itself, and this will reduce their power, they will definitely oppose it.

One ​​of the reasons for the opposition of the West, especially America, with China is its cultural issues, its social philosophical issues, its humanitarian issues, and the issues of their view on the governance of the world community, world peace, America and the West seek They don’t want to create world peace, their only concern is that the more the world gets into trouble, the more weapons factories will produce, the countries will become more dependent on America and actually save this country as its savior.

Tasnim: There is an idea about China that the Chinese are Their own neighbors are more sensitive, both in terms of culture, economy and politics, from this point of view, the countries of Central Asia, Pakistan and Afghanistan will become more important for them than the countries of the Persian Gulf. My observation is about the Muslims living in China. There is a narrative that the Chinese put a lot of pressure on the Muslims living in China. Do you think this is true? And how is China’s relationship with the Muslims of Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Central Asia? >

** There is an Arabic proverb that says “Al-Aqrab Yamna Al-Abaad” which means that the one who is closer is more connected than the one who is further away. . Of course, after China solved its internal issues and solved its problems, the first step was towards its neighboring country, especially in East Asia, where there are many Chinese diaspora countries in many of these countries.

like Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Myanmar, Thailand, naturally, the relationship started with them first and then it reached us, that is, the Chinese are cautious people. If they don’t firm their feet, they won’t take the second step. That’s why I said that they didn’t get into political issues until they had stabilized their position economically, and they didn’t deal with other issues until they were sure about political issues, but now it has passed that stage. At first, maybe 10-20 years ago, it was Most of their attention was focused on the neighboring and peripheral countries, but now they have passed that situation and now they are thinking about the international community. You know that there are about 56 ethnic groups and races living in China, one of which is the “Hen” race, or the Chinese themselves, who are almost 92% of the Chinese community from this race, and the remaining 8% are 55 ethnic minorities. 55 ethnic minorities are 10 Muslim ethnic groups, which means ten Muslim ethnic groups live in China.

It is interesting that apart from some ethnic minorities who Certain places are complex and everyone is almost gathered in one place. A series of these Muslims, especially Khoi Muslims, are spread all over China, that is, if you take a handful of sand and spread it, how can it go everywhere? Muslims are present all over China.

I have not visited any city where there is no Muslim, no mosque, no Islamic Association, there are approximately 34,000 mosques in China, 72 in Beijing. There is a mosque, 450 to 500 thousand Muslims live in Beijing.

Because of their belief, it should deal with all these ethnic groups and all Muslims, but this is not the case. It is completely wrong. The Chinese are completely involved with those who are a threat to their security and ethnic unity, and deal with them whether they want to be Muslims or Buddhists. He wants to be Confucian, he wants to be whatever he wants.

I don’t know how familiar you are with the Phalangon group, an organizational group was formed whose thinking was based on They had accepted Buddhism and Confucianism and started to join the society at the beginning of their work, whose nature was not yet defined, the government had welcomed them and helped them, but later when they realized that this group was shaking the government, unity They weaken the nation, they dealt harshly and resolutely crushed everyone, why are they dealing with the Tibetans? Because they are Buddhist? Not because they were making the Tibetan region unsafe during the support of India and America, they were dealt with. The Xinjiang region is dealt with, I emphasize, not because of their religious beliefs. Now in China, there are more than 10 faculties of Islamic sciences. At the expense of the government, the government trains scholars, they become imams, they answer people’s religious issues, and the government protects their rights. If the government is against the religion of Islam, it should not do these things. There is no such thing at all, and if the government deals with the Uyghurs in the Xinjiang region, it is simply because the Uyghurs are under the influence of Western countries and under the influence of Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and ISIS. … and they messed up the security of that region and they are also dealing with it. Now there is a Muslim representative in the National People’s Congress of China, the people’s consultative conference, which is actually the second parliament of China, all Muslims have representatives.

In China, out of 31 provinces, there are 5 minority autonomous provinces, and they believe that in each region, the population of one of these 56 ethnic groups is more than the others. May they leave the management of that region in the hands of that minority. Out of these 5 autonomous provinces, 2 are Muslim provinces, one is Xinjiang region and one is Nigxia region, because the population of Muslims is more than other minorities, it has been entrusted to them.

The president and the governor are Muslim, most of their high, middle and lower level managers are Muslim, and not only the provinces, there are more than 200 cities, towns and districts throughout China that are Muslim autonomous regions; Every province has its own local assembly, every city has its own local assembly, and all Muslims are present in these parliaments and local assemblies.

West They launched a massive propaganda of Sinophobia because they are against Islam, they are against Muslims, but we are against the Shiites who come to the streets and threaten the society, we deal with them; National security requires it, it is the red line of every country and they also have this red line. For example, I went to the Xinjiang region four or five times. I don’t want to say that the Chinese are doing quite well in their actions. Sometimes they may use more intensity. Clashes are not due to beliefs; I have said this many times to everyone, to anyone and everywhere, the Chinese do not deal with Muslims because of their beliefs, if that was the case, all regions should have this deal with Muslims.

Tsanim: to enter bilateral relations from regional issues; In your opinion, what is Iran’s position in the Chinese system? Look, Iran, as a country that can be the heart of geopolitics, almost like China, has had and has a great history of civilization. How do the Chinese look at Iran, and then we will enter into both cultural and political issues.

**In Chinese books and with every Chinese we talk to, they don’t know Iran by the name “Iran”, which means Iran is something new for them, but “Persia” or kiss” as the Chinese say is quite familiar to all Chinese people. When I say that I am Iranian, he makes a mistake, he says, firstly, he makes a mistake with Iraq, and secondly, he thinks that Iran is one of the Arab countries. It has so much culture and civilization.” A country that is the dream of everyone, a kiss means Persia, the name of Aalam, and we call Persia by its name Aalama.

Iran means the country full of secrets. And Raz, a country that has such a culture and civilization that is my dream. In the meaning of Persia, yes, the name is Aalam, which means to turn Persia into a kiss in the Chinese language, and in fact, it is considered a very good country, a country with a history, a country with a civilization.

China and Iran were neighbors for different millennia or in different centuries, that is, countries like Tajikistan and Afghanistan, which did not exist, had a common border between China and Iran. And the coming and going of the Silk Road was because of these commonalities, and the knowledge that our literary elders found about China was because of these coming and going. It is exactly the same thing on the Chinese side, that is, the Chinese are completely familiar with Bose or Persia or ancient Iran and are completely interested in it. This is a fundamental matter.

The bilateral relations between us and China is that they took many things from us in their civilization and culture and gave us many things, and this has made our recognition of each other a real recognition and Based on this recognition, they are also interested in Iran, but the Chinese are a cautious person. Perhaps one of the factors that made Sinophobia and Iranophobia successful is the lack of communication between the Chinese and Iran. Because they are afraid and think that if they come to Iran, this and that will happen. There were two attacks, Iran was in the middle, everyone thought that Iran was at war. With the cooperation of the embassy, ​​we sent the president of the China Daily newspaper and its editor to Iran with a number of reporters. They came to Iran and searched everywhere and came back when the China Daily newspaper, which is one of the most reliable English-language newspapers there, ran the headline: “Heaven in the middle of hell.” that a heavenly Iran is located between the hell of Iran and Afghanistan.

Then they saw the Iranian newspaper, they saw two or three press institutions, many women They are working there. In his text, he wrote that what we heard from the West about Iran is that women are under pressure and at home. When we went, we saw that women are working side by side with men in all fields. Therefore, their view of Iran is a positive one.

Tasnim: We want to come a little closer. The last important thing that happened between Iran and China in the past years was the 25-year-old memorandum that was signed. This memorandum could have created various opportunities and threats for us, but until today we see that this memorandum It has remained stagnant. In your opinion, what is the main factor and issue that this agreement has remained silent?

**Before signing this Memorandum of Understanding We have signed perhaps dozens of cultural, scientific, educational, artistic, and economic memorandums of understanding with the Chinese.

That is, we are interested, our officials are interested to come there and sign a memorandum to the Chinese side and trumpet that we did this and that. What they don’t remember is this case.

The 25-year comprehensive memorandum is really a very high-level memorandum and it is comprehensive, security issues, Military, economic, political, cultural, investment includes all of these, but this also has the same problem as the previous memorandum, that is, if another country had signed such a memorandum with China, it would have implemented hundreds of billions of projects with the help of the Chinese. The dollar had attracted Chinese capital, but in the last four years, I don’t think Iran has taken a positive step in this field for implementation.

Tasnim: Many believe that even though the Iranian side shows at least on paper and evidence, it needs and the Chinese also signed, but the reason is that this understanding The letter cannot be implemented because of some international considerations and challenges, such as the sanctions against Iran or joining some international conventions that the Chinese, considering what you are saying, considering the current conditions of Iran. They don’t want to even if the officials have a serious determination?

** I don’t accept this. I don’t agree, in the sense that if the Chinese are not sure of its implementation, they won’t sign it, that is, until they understand that what I said, I put it on paper and signed it, they won’t sign it or not.

Tasnim: In the past, Dr. Larijani was put in charge of the China case, do you think that a person being put in charge of the case of bilateral relations is a good model for the development of relations Do you consider it?

** It can definitely move the work forward, now there is no trustee for the 25-year-old understanding, this 25-year-old understanding As I said, it is comprehensive. Dozens of contracts must be prepared and signed in each and every word. When there is no one to follow these, there is no one to follow up on them, no one cares, we are losing this opportunity. Now Of the 25 years, 4 years have passed, that is, 21 more years are left.

In these 4 years, we should have prepared and signed dozens of contracts based on that memorandum. In Iran, there is no one in charge of this matter, a person, a staff, a person like Mr. Larijani or anyone else should be appointed for this task. Look now, when Mr. Larijani became the manager of our country, when a person named Mr. Larijani took charge of this matter, he brought the matter to the point where the memorandum was signed. After he withdrew from this responsibility, there is no one left. to follow up on this.

Another problem we have is that our contracts or our economic interactions with China have no other attachments, for example Our Ministry of Petroleum only signs oil contracts. Our Ministry of Commerce only signs contracts for the purchase of certain materials. There are 200 Kazakh people studying petroleum engineering in China Petroleum College, because Kazakhstan Oil Company had an educational annex when they signed the contract with China Oil Company, they said, we will sign this on the condition that you accept 100 students and 50 of our students every year, and technical Teach them engineering. Is there something in our oil contracts that says cultural, educational and political attachment, we act as an island, the Chinese act completely centralized, this makes us unable to take advantage of this situation.

Tasnim: Let me ask you again from another perspective. Maybe some people believe that we should To keep the 25-year contract silent, in what sense? Because we find a strong dependence and if Chinese capital is going to enter the country, even if a part of the 400 billion dollars that is heard, this amount of our dependence on China is increasing. As a result, in order to maintain the country’s independence and to have better diplomatic mobility, we may have to silence this agreement. We have the same problem in the cultural field. Statistics show that the number of Iranians who want to learn Chinese is higher than the number of Chinese who want to learn Chinese. to learn Farsi, there are more of them. As a result, we have to manage this dissatisfaction, and to resolve the dissatisfaction, we are trying to stop the supply.

** This is not the right view. First of all, regarding the Persian language, there was no relationship between Iran and China before the revolution. Peking University came to the conclusion that it is necessary to establish a Persian language chair by a man named the late Professor Jishian Lin, a prominent Chinese orientalist, who was a graduate of Germany and was really a very prominent scientific figure and was very interested in Iran. He is an institution. He formed a scientific and research work on different cultures and published in China for more than 50 books on the culture of different countries. Of these 50 titles, 35 were about Iran.

he said that in order to know Iran well we need to have Persian language seats in Beijing University and from the so-called Russian masters When Persian knew it was used to establish it, two people were sent to Kabul University who graduated from Farsi and then reinforced it, then the University of Beijing the University of Radio and Radio Beijing established a Persian language section for Beijing Radio The revolution was also established and operated.

to supply the necessary forces on Radio Beijing and the Persian language press segment was established. And it was the third university of Luivan, most of the military and security university, to meet the needs of their security and military sector to those who know Farsi, and there were three universities before the revolution, but the first was the University of Beijing. Launched there, but currently 18 universities of China are set up in Persian and dozens of students annually, and these new students are mainly in the economy sector in the sector of commerce and commerce with Iran. All those with Iran Relationships are using these students.

The first Iranian university to establish Chinese language seats was Shahid Beheshti University with so-called foreign language university Shanghai signed a contract to teach Persian here and to teach Chinese. They sent a professor here. Chinese language professor sent Persian here. They first received 10 to 15 Persian students every two years, for example, Shahid Beheshti University each year 20-30 or as much as they could get a Chinese language student after they graduated all graduates of Shahid Beheshti University. They didn’t exist and all the graduates of Shanghai University were clear before they graduated either in the private sector or the public sector.

I asked the President of the University of Shanghai why you do not act like us every year. He said I don’t have much money. Our government does not have much money to bring a number of young students to teach Persian and not later have a job for them and become unemployed here. I asked the same question from the Shahid Beheshti University. In their eyes, they accept as much as they need students. Education and the government spent on higher education. Perhaps 95 % of them are not working in the parts that need Chinese. We have no proper planning. Bangladesh, a poor country named Bangladesh University, when I went to see that 25 Chinese students came to teach Bangali because they had a plan that China would reach an economy that Bangladesh should actually depend on the Chinese economy.

You can almost say that all the living languages ​​of the world have a specialist in that language and we have no or if I have no use at all. To say a Mr. Iranian was the best Chinese language student in China and received his doctorate, unlike many students who were graduating and looking for business and commerce while studying. And I brought this gentleman to Iran, Vice President of Shahid Beheshti University, who had a Chinese chair, I said Mr. Fellani, you saw this gentleman you paid for a doctor. But if you have reached a conclusion, the servant of God has come to a conclusion. Tasnim: You do not believe in the rise. We don’t do it right and we don’t have a plan. I want to make more cultural, and my expertise is more or less in China. We have a historical place of historical and cultural legs, each of which would have exploited it if other countries had now used it. An example is a character named Sayyid Ajal Omar Shamsuddin Bukharai to China and reaches the court and reaches excellent officials and as the minister of court and provincial and … their children and subsequent generations are now in The same provinces that were governor have large management and they consider themselves Iranians to say that Iranian blood is in our veins. At the time of World War II, the Chinese consulate in Poland had married a Polish woman who was a Jewish World War that begins to return to China. Invested $ 150 million invested this woman’s so-called cinematic film as the basis of Israel’s relations with China.

This Mr. Sidjel Omar Shams al -Din, who the Chinese are very fond of, wrote in their historical textbooks when they come to that point in history that Chinese people will never forget the services of Sayyid Ajl Omar Shamsuddin so much and base a Chinese Muslim screenwriter in Realized this person’s life to the screenplay, and the Chinese side said that we were willing to participate with you in the series and the film, that the script has been translated into Persian, and so far, 4-5 institutions from Voice-of-Sima to producers. The private sector signed a contract but one of them did not implement. > Tasnim : You believe that we are desirable to Chinese. They have the desirability to show green lights but we didn’t do it?

** Yes, we should not blame the Chinese. We are the main culprit. When they see ten work with us, half-work and we abandoned the beginning.

Tasnim: As the last question, I will address some other issues. On the other hand, there are groups that believe that we are our favorable relationship with the Western world and that only China is a balance in this game. RTL “style =” text-align: justify “> ** We have a proverb in Iran that either forty columns or pillars 39 columns between column and 40 columns in all personal, family and national life matters We have the same or it should be 100 % like us if it is 99 % if they don’t look like this in China. In China, everything is known to be the leader of the Chinese Revolution Mao saved China from misery and misery and civil war. A powerful, dictatorial leader and country saved the country, but when he rescued and began his leadership, he rescued his mistakes and mistakes. It was irreparable that some of them killed 50 million people in China. Still, neither the Communist Party nor the Chinese people are not cursing. He was also wrong.

Tasnim: is the dominant spectrum?

** It is really a look that everything is in its own right, it is wrong to punish, and good work is well. The prize itself has to be paid. And I usually say two types of gatherings to make the subject matter two, we have one algebraic gathering of a math community. Your algebraic sum is 100 to one each has a value added and takes from the other. But there is a math that is one plus one and two multiplications in two. The group of Chinese mathematical community and our collection is algebra. We put together all our power and energy to counteract the other side and do exactly it for us if it is not in China. To have their energy synergy.

This is a problem we have and have no Chinese and that we now see in a lot of We have failed to succeed, despite the good relations we have with China throughout history and this 40-50 years old is that we have no central core to make a decision. Anyone is “Anna Rajal” for itself. In the name of China, one general is located above. The rest are the infrared officers to order the soldier and do everyone in Iran. >

Tasnim: Everyone gives a name on this competition between China and America. It is said that managed competition some officially say war or some say that economic war is generally a competition between China and the US.

** The Chinese view of America differs from us, with all the issues between China and the US most of China’s capital in America China’s trade relations with the US I have to complete this China in the world has problems with three countries, one America with a competitive, strategic and strategic problem. Part of itself knows and they claim independence the most investment in China has been from these three countries.

Like Iranians, a very wide dspoura has more than 55 million Chinese living in different countries, which went from 100 and 200 years ago, and some have come to the Communist time after a communist, a blood enemy of Chinese sovereignty. They went, but the first people who came after economic reforms invested in China were the Chinese overseas. We have six and seven or eight million Iranians abroad say they have $ 700-800 billion or more capital. None of them are not allowed to invest in Iran. Anyone who comes back and do not go away. Say the sweetness of the enemy that is to be eaten.

Chinese have a lot of differences with us. Say no to the pattern because they are in another phase but we can use the Chinese experiences to fix our problems.

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